Thu 5 Feb 2009
Justice shouldn’t notice the sex of the defendant
Posted by Miss Represented under Meredith Kercher Case
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Upon reading this article which I came across earlier today, I can honestly say my first reaction was absolute outrage. If you have read the article and are now at a loss as to why I feel this way I hope you’ll allow me to explain:
In this short article Julie Bindel is seemingly angry at the Italian judicial system for daring to prosecute Amanda Knox for a “sex crime” as, during her 30 years of “monitoring, researching and campaigning against sex crime” she has “never encountered anything remotely like the case against Amanda Knox.” Despite the fact that Bindel correctly asserts that the majority of sex crimes (and in particular sex related homicides) are predominantly committed by men, she goes on to make the outlandish claim that we “tend not to look too closely for motives of male sex killers, unconsciously accepting them as being badly wired, but with women, we demand one.” This profoundly outrageous feminist statement angers me beyond belief. In the space of a few words Bindel has attempted to nullify and completely obliterate the work of several eminent forensic experts and years of research.
Understanding why people kill has been the main focus of forensic psychology and psychiatry for many years. The excellent work of Dr Robert Hare has provided us with an insight as has Dr Michael Welner’s ongoing work on the Depravity Scale. These are fantastic examples of researchers with a real passion for understanding the motives behind crime irrespective of gender.
I’m tired of reading jumped up feminist articles spouting badly researched drivel with bum statistics and massive inaccuracies. It’s only possible to see how the mainstream media can saturate the public domain with inaccurate information when you spot the so called ‘expert’ journalists talking complete and utter nonsense. In her all encompassing knowledge and wisdom Bindel goes on to make further outlandish statements; stating that the evidence against a defendant on trial for murder in a country where the judicial system is strongly in favour of defendants is “circumstantial” and that if “Knox is convicted, it will be a first”.
In a previous post I outlined how stereotyping prevents us from seeing the woman as a potentially violent individual but would also like to add that feminism prevents us from seeing the female as a potentially violent individual by vehemently denying all evidence and research about female perpetrators and nearly always asserting, despite extensive evidence to the contrary that women couldn’t possibly be violent and that it simply had to be the work of nasty, nasty men.
Feminists like Bindel who are analysing the ongoing trial are attempting to pick and choose which woman they would like to defend by placing the female rights and privileges of Amanda Knox above the main objective: justice for Meredith Kercher and her long suffering family. I would also like to point out that nowhere in the entire article does it mention the victim’s first name, merely referring to “Kercher” as if the victim of a violent attack leading to an agonisingly slow death is merely an afterthought.
I would like to ask Julie Bindel to assert her supreme confidence that women are incapable of this level of violence to 21 year old Brooke Cameron who was scarred for life when an older woman named Sonja Oliver deliberately ran her over in a BMW, dragging her underneath the car for several yards and leaving her arm hanging on by a tendon. The reason? Ms Oliver was jealous of the younger woman and her good looks. Ms Oliver was acquitted of unlawful wounding with intent and sentenced to a mere 15 months in prison. Ms Cameron will be permanently scared and no longer has the full use of her arm. I wonder what sort of article Julie Bindel would have written had it been a man who ran over Brooke Cameron.
One of the major blockades to the truth in this case is that the media and the public who trust it without question, simply refuse to accept that Amanda Knox could have killed her housemate Meredith Kercher, simply because Amanda is a woman. I’ve read quite a few articles from the feminist angle and was beginning to wonder how long it would be before they really started to sink their teeth in.
For a while I’ve wanted to ask Candace Dempsey why comments which are ‘disrespectful to women’ are prohibited on her blog when she continues to show virtually zero sympathy for the woman at the centre of this case who really matters: Meredith. I’d ask but it would probably be deleted almost instantly.
This mass cognitive dissonance is the only thing holding Knox’s defence together and writers like Bindel and Dempsey merely sound like bossy little 8 year olds in the playground demanding to have their opinions heard whilst simultaneously ignoring virtually every scrap of evidence the prosecution has used to build a (strong) case. Typical feminists.
What would have happened if Amanda went to the cottage alone that night? What would have happened if Amanda didn’t have a man to blame?
If you’d like to be a real feminist make sure women (and this includes Amanda Knox) are treated fairly and equally in court. There can be no equality without responsibility. Amanda and her team of supporters have pulled virtually every female trick in the book during the investigation and trial.
As my friend quite rightly noted: Justice shouldn’t recognise the sex of the defendant.
So to answer your question “Can Amanda Knox really be a crazed sex killer?” Yes Ms Bindel, yes she can!
grurgle
Great work Ms R.
I read the Guardian article this morning and I almost burst a blood vessel! I am sick of hearing about Amanda being innocent because she’s a white, middle class, well educated girl. Jessica Davies was the epitomy of that stereotype and look what happened there. I also seem to remember a case of an American girl who was lured to her death by her demure & delicate school mate because Ms delicate thought the victim was flirting with her boyfriend. Not one of these girls displayed any prior signs of what was ahead. Equally, has anyone seen the film Heavenly Creatures with Kate Winslet? True story and another example of what happens when people are pushed or humiliated to their limits. Why is it so hard to believe that Amanda snapped and stabbed Meredith after reading the background in the cases mentioned? I would suggest that Ms Bindel familiarises herself with a new cultural phenomenon…GOOGLE!
Thanks DS (and uglyface, I know who you are
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It’s very hard for people to accept that Amanda did this because we are indoctrinated into believing feminist ‘truths’ and also into blaming men for all violent crime. Isn’t it about time thinking on this issue grew up a bit?
It almost makes me ashamed to be a woman
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What I find backwards about the article by Bindel, is that she talks psychology first, and evidence second. Well, in truth, she really doesn’t talk evidence. Just questioning the fact that Knox changed her story, and implied that this is not much evidence to go on.
Is this woman for real? Does she not read and inform herself of the reports of evidence available to the public before she makes a psychological commentary? I would be embarrassed as a journalist had I written that piece.
Yes, it is true a person is innocent until proven guilty.
However, why in her article is there no mention of Knox’s DNA, Meredith’s DNA, clear evidence of a clean-up, etc.?
Yes, pretty sexist to base a theory of innocence on gender. No credibility there.
Now, if she had wanted to make a case for innocence based on psychology, then delve into the details of Knox’s life and personality, not a general statement of what is not possible because of gender.
Even Knox changing her story, to me, does not indicate guilt (there have been many people who have “confessed” guilt erroneously under the duress of police questioning).
When I first started reading this story, I was on the fence regarding innocence/guilt. But as one reads the realms of evidence available (and I have a feeling we haven’t even heard 50% of it), it’s difficult not to conclude guilt.
However, I do not believe Knox was capable of committing this act alone. I do believe, because of a “pack mentality”, she was able to do this with others.
And I also believe this heartbreaking tragedy occurred not only because it was drug fuelled, and not only because a young American girl was emotionally unhealthy to begin with, but because 3 culprits were emotionally unhealthy TOGETHER.
(P.S. I was too afraid to take the Depravity test thing. I was afraid that I wouldn’t be able to sleep had I taken the survey.
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Quoting Kathy Graham: “What I find backwards about the article by Bindel, is that she talks psychology first, and evidence second. Well, in truth, she really doesn’t talk evidence. Just questioning the fact that Knox changed her story, and implied that this is not much evidence to go on.”
Exactly! Except she’s not talking psychology, she’s talking fembot nonsense! This kind of reporting is sloppy, lazy and rude. One can’t help but assume that these lazy trouts sit in front of a shiny apple airbook once a week and spew out a load of old horses**t just for the sake of a paycheck.
She couldn’t care less if readers agree or disagree with what she has to say and the fact that she makes it perfectly clear that she is biased makes her no better than that awful Dempsey woman.
Grurgle
M.R
Miss R -
I appreciated reading your lament when it was forwarded to me.
In my professional opinion, justice that is guided by the gender, race, national origin and status of the perpetrator is no justice at all. The Depravity Scale is being formulated in order to cut through the biases that blind a juror to focus on evidence for the intent, actions, victimology, and attitude.
More troubling than Bindel’s dogma is that a juror or judge — otherwise educated and showing no signs of delusion — who engages a case like Knox with Bindel’s level of closed-mindedness invariably eclipses the facts before them.
All of my academic background and experience in this area of tragedy reinforces my impression that anyone is capable of anything, so long as they have the physical wherewithal. So many times have I seen cases that “never happened before.” And then I saw them happen.
Forensic scientists differentiate themselves from blowhards by acknowledging that if they think they know the evidence before they study it, they will be embarrassingly wrong. And so let’s see what the evidence shows.
Keep up your thought-provoking exercise of free speech.
Michael Welner, M.D.
http://www.depravityscale.org
I wonder what Bindel would make of the crime committed in a Paris suburb just days after Knox and Sollecito were arrested. Jessica Davies, a UK national, picked up Olivier Mugnier in a bar, brought him home and slit his throat while they were having sex. Davies later said she had been inspired by the case in Perugia and was seeking an extreme experience. After slitting Mugnier’s throat, Davies — who is the niece of a British MP — is said to have stabbed him several times in a fit of rage. I don’t believe she had any prior history of violence, but had been dumped by a boyfriend and was taking anti-depressants.
Incidentally, Julia Molony has written a much more interesting analysis of crimes with a female face in the Irish Independent. She mentions Knox, Karen Matthews and the Roscommon case.
Hi Skeptical Bystander, I couldn’t speak for Ms Bindel but if I had to make an educated guess I’d expect her to completely blank these sorts of cases completely. It’s easy to make passing statements based on her own opinion about how things ‘should be’. I’m confident that we would have heard of a lot more cases about women like Jessica Davies and the Roscommon abuse scandal if the public were more able to accept that women are capable of this sort of violent behaviour, as yet the most of the public (and in particular, other women) simply refuse to accept that these sorts of things happen. It’s like the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about.
I haven’t read the Julia Molony analysis, I’ll check it out. Thank you.
Great blog. I read it all. I just wanted to say that I’d read that Bindel article yesterday and couldn’t believe it either. I completely agree with you. I hate the whole Men are from Mars, women from Venus type of thinking already but to act like ‘She’s a woman, therefore, she wouldn’t kill’ is utter crap.